Internet and e-mail policy and practice
including Notes on Internet E-mail


2007
Months
Dec

Click the comments link on any story to see comments or add your own.


Subscribe to this blog


RSS feed


Home :: ICANN

13 Dec 2007

Defendants respond to Dell suit ICANN

The defendants in Dell's domain tasting suit responded last Friday. It looks like a pretty feeble response to me.

Their main argument is that they're just the registrar, and deny Dell's claim that the registrants are fakes made up by the registrar. They also argue that they're not infringing, they didn't use the names in question in commerce, they were just acting as helpful search engines, you know, like Google or Yahoo. (The comparison to Google and Yahoo is theirs.)

They cite some cases to support the argument that registration per se without using the domain doesn't infringe, which is correct, although it appears that all of the domains were pointed at web sites full of ads. They also argue that the domains weren't identical to Dell's marks, hence they weren't counterfeiting the trademarks.

Finally, defendant Netrian Ventures claims that it does no business in the US, and the main defendant's wife, who received the summons, doesn't work for them, hence they weren't served.

The thrust of all of these arguments isn't to deny that the defendants committed the actions they're accused of, but rather to argue that what they did doesn't precisely match what the law forbids. I see that one of their attorneys is Derek Newman of Newman Dichter in Seattle who has successfully used similar defense arguments in Gordon vs. Virtumundo and other cases.

Ongoing discovery in this case will be very interesting. It may well turn out to be true that the registrar defendants are fronting for someone else, since as I noted in my previous posting, they seem rather small for the scale of the activity, and in particular for the size of the registry deposit you'd need to kite that many domains.


  posted at: 14:33 :: permanent link to this entry :: 0 comments
Stable link is https://jl.ly/ICANN/dell2.html

Topics


My other sites

Who is this guy?

Airline ticket info

Taughannock Networks

Other blogs

CAUCE
It turns out you don’t need a license to hunt for spam.
201 days ago

A keen grasp of the obvious
Italian Apple Cake
759 days ago

Related sites

Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial E-mail

Network Abuse Clearinghouse

My Mastodon feed



© 2005-2024 John R. Levine.
CAN SPAM address harvesting notice: the operator of this website will not give, sell, or otherwise transfer addresses maintained by this website to any other party for the purposes of initiating, or enabling others to initiate, electronic mail messages.